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Thursday, December 1, 2011

Mission Complete in Iraq? (Please respond by Friday, December 9)

In a recent interview conducted with the TODAY Show, Vice President Joe Biden was asked a variety of questions about the United States withdrawal of troops from Iraq in 2012. After watching the 6 minute video below, my question for all of you is pretty simple: did the United States of America succeed or fail in their mission in Iraq? Do you think the U.S. leaving Iraq in 2012 is a good idea? Do you believe leaving Iraq in 2012 is simply a campaign strategy by the Obama Administration? Please leave your honest opinions.

Iraq Interview with Vice President Biden

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm very indecisive about my feelings toward the war in Iraq. To a point, I think it was a good thing for our troops to go there and try and solve problems but on another hand, I feel that, based on the information I know of the war, we didn't do all that much and still risked so many lives of our American troops. I think that we did succeed in the mission in Iraq because they did what they were originally supposed too but I think we should have left Iraq a while ago. I think that the troops leaving in Iraq in 2012 is a great idea so that we can focus our troops where they actually need to be and also send home many of the troops and end war. I feel that leaving Iraq in 2012 is not simply a campaign strategy by the Obama Administration because I think that they all truly wanted our troops to be removed from Iraq and have the hopes of getting all of our troops home soon. I feel that Joe Biden in particular wanted the troops to come home since his son was one and I think that because of examples like him, it is not just a campaign strategy but that it is what they have wanted and were going to do soon no matter when the re-election campaign would begin.

Anonymous said...

I am personally not too upset with the troops getting out of Iraq. I do think that we should have been there in the first place, and I knew that we had to get out of there eventually. There is really no way for me to say here in my little suburban home whether or not all of our mission is completed yet but I think that our nation. Has stopped the weapons of mass destruction as much as we could in Iraq and our job is done. I also think it is good that the Troops are coming home just like Joe Biden so obviously does as we can tell from that video. I feel that based off of what I know about our current state in the middle east we cannot leave entirely, but just getting the troops out of that one section, Iraq, we are saving a lot of lives and can get those men and women into more important areas in the middle east. I do kind of think Obama is doing this for a campaign boost but there are true reasons why he is doing it as well. You know Obama would do anything to get re-elected and this is just one more step to get him into office, but maybe it really is not all that bad this time. Basically I am okay with the troops leaving Iraq, as long as they stay in the middle east protecting other areas still.

Anonymous said...

I believe that US has had success in Iraq. As Biden said, violence rates are the lowest they've ever been since 2002. On the other hand, I think that pulling the troops out of Iraq is a completely idiotic idea. At the beginning of the interview, the reporter said that there had been a car bombing with causalities that day!Therefore, I do not understand how taking our troops, who are supposed to be helping make peace, out of Iraq can seem like a good plan. Our country has a whole needs to face the fact that we are responsible for helping a country if they need it, or if they are a threat to the rest of the world. We are the police officers of the world. The sooner the administration of our country figures that out, the world will be better off. We cannot just leave Iraq and leave them to fend for themselves! It will result in disaster. I'm sure there will revolts and many more deaths if we leave in comparison to if we stayed. As a daughter of someone who has actually been over seas in Iraq, I hate when people say that we didn't need to do this. How can you say that this war was not important when we have soldiers who have gone and gave their lives for this cause? I just can't fathom the ignorance of some people. You cannot truly support the troops if you do not support their cause, and people who do not support our troops completely disgust me. I want to see those people live in a country that doesn't have a military and see how it turns. Sorry, I went off on a little rant there. Anyways, I do think this is just a campaign strategy of the Obama administration. Obama promised Change. Has there been any change in this country? Yes, but that was change for the worst. He also promised to get our troops out of Iraq. I feel like Obama is attempting show that he can actually follow through on a promise for once. I think that it is admirable that he is trying to show our country that he can actually do the things he says, but I do not think this will turn out well. We will have to see how things turn out and hopefully I am wrong about what will happen to Iraq after we leave. Also, Biden crying was just a publicity stunt to try and draw attention to this issue.

Anonymous said...

nI think that the U.S. has definitely succeeded in Iraq. We have drastically reduced the amount of violence and stopped weapons of mass destruction as much as possible. We also helped their counrty maintain a stable government, like Patricia said. I am glad that the troops are coming home because, frankly, we have been there way too long and have lost too many soldiers. I agree with Andi in that pulling the soldiers out of Iraq is not soley for campaign purposes. I beleive that Obama and his staff have been wanting to leave Iraq, especially Biden because of his son. However, I do think that this helps his campaign because many people have been wanting to bring the troops home. Pulling the soldiers out has a positive reflection on the President because it shows that Obama cares about the soldiers and their families. Also, he has fulfilled one of his promises that he made (emphasis on one) at the beginning of his term. All in all, although there were many struggles in Iraq, it's safe to say that the U.S succeeded in Iraq.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Andi. I am indecisive with Iraq also, mainly because we went in for the wrong reasons in the first place. It depleted our economy and I do not believe it was necessary considering our reasoning was because of nuclear weapons even though there were none. I feel like we went to war for all the wrong reasons and because we were afraid after what happened on 9/11. On the other hand,a lot of other countries see us as the country who steps in and helps everyone out, and Iraq certainly needed help. Obviously Iraq was not successful in getting rid of nuclear weapons because there weren't any there, but we were successful in helping to stabilize their country more. I'm very torn on this issue as you can see, but to be honest I am not as connected to it because I have no personal attachment to it. All I know is that my heart goes out to families who have someone serving there. I do believe that leaving Iraq in 2012 is a good idea because we have been there for so long and it is time for it to end. It is only wasting our time and energy for something that we have been helping out with for too long. Also, I do think that leaving in 2012 is primarily a campaign strategy. Obama really has not done anything and one of his major strategies to get elected was claiming he would bring the troops home, yet over the years he had never really mentioned it. I do not think it is just a coincidence that all of a sudden he's trying to get them out when the presidential election is approaching. I think that is one of the only things that may possibly save him. Lastly, Biden crying was interesting, but I liked the lady's sympathetic face the most because it looked like she was going to start crying too. I do not think the crying was fake for either of them.. I just think it was exaggerated for more attention.

Anonymous said...

In relations to taking the troops out of Iraq, I concur with AndI. I am very indecisive when it comes to that specific issue. I feel like I don’t know enough about the status that Iraq is in today to make an educated decision. Although Biden said that we have helped train Iraq into a democracy I still feel like there is a chance for them to rebel and attack other countries. This issue makes me very nervous because I don’t want another terrorist attack but I also feel like it is time for our troops to come home. Our troops have been over there for about 8 years and it is time for them to finally return their families. In regards to if the United States mission was a success in Iraq, I don’t think that it was. The reason we went over there in the first place was to stop any weapons of mass destruction from being a threat to the rest of the world. We haven’t fount any of those weapons and I feel like that was a stupid reason to go to war. Sure, Iraq’s government needed help, but I think we could have thought of other ways to help their government become somewhat democratic. Back in 2004 Obama promised that he would bring our troops home, and that is exactly what he is doing. Some people believe that bringing the troops home is part of his campaign strategy and I see where they are coming from. Right now Obama’s approval ratings aren’t the best and it seems like he needs to convince the people of the United States into electing him for another term. Taking the troops out of Iraq might help Obama receive the ratings he needs to be elected for another term.

Anonymous said...

I definitely think that succeeded in their efforts to help reshape Iraq. Like Biden said, the violence rate has dramatically gone down which is a positive change to Iraq's country. I dont't have too much information about the war but all I know is that I don't know if they accomplished what they were trying to do when they first got there after 9/11. Personally I am happy they are able to come back home and can finally live safely in the United States. Apart of me feels like making them leave Iraq could possibly just be for Obama's campaign because his whole thing when he was running for office was bringing our troops home. I think he realizes that after his first term in office his popularity rate has gone down and has to follow through with his word if he wants to have another term in office. I'm sure there are other reasons for why our troops are coming home, but it just seems coincidental that when Obama is running again for President, our troops are coming home as well.

Anonymous said...

I personally believe that the U.S. was both successful and unsuccessful in Iraq. Although we did not find the weapons of mass destruction that were supposedly out their and many Americans serving their country died, I would not say this was all unsuccessful. I am proud to live in a place where there are men and women that will fight for our nation. These courageous people risked their lives and helped out many Iraqi people. The violence rates are at a very low point since 2002 and they now have a stable, democratic government. I think that the troops leaving in 2012 is a good idea. I think they deserve to come home now that things are better over there and it has been a very long time. I know that there is still violence over there, but we find violence everywhere in our world today. It is a sad but true fact. As for whether or not this is a campaign strategy, I am actually going to say I don't think it is. As much as I am not a fan of Obama, I feel like this isn't just for his campaign. I believe this because of how close this hits home for Biden. The whole interview he looked upset discussing the topic, and I actually believe those tears are real. Biden is very passionate about this issue and I do not think he would agree to let Obama do this for his campaign. It will obviously help his campaign, but I like to find the best in people, and I hope in Obama's heart he is doing this for the right reasons. Those men and women deserve to come home and be able to be reunited with loved ones.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Joe Biden that we did succeed in accomplishing some things in Iraq. Although we did not destroy any weapons of mass destruction, which was the reason we went into Iraq in the first place, we are leaving the country pretty stable and secure. We were also able to reduce the amount of violence and what not, which is never a bad thing. I think that being able to leave the country in better shape then when we got there is a pretty great accomplishment. Before watching this video, I thought that taking the troops out of Iraq was definitely a good idea, but I learned some things that I didn’t know before.. for example, I was quite alarmed to hear that there had been a car bombing with casualties just that day! I really hope that things like that do not happen too often because I would hate to leave the country in that state! I don’t really think we should have even gone into Iraq but I do think that it did have some benefit to it. We were able to help their country and hopefully were able to greatly improve the lives of the people living there. I also do not think that taking the troops out of Iraq is a campaign strategy for Obama. From the beginning, Obama has promised to get the troops out as soon as he can, and it is obviously something that his vice- president feels very strongly about as well, and he followed through with it.
Also, this video was extremely boring and anti- climatic. The only reason I watched the whole thing was to see Biden cry and it wasn’t even that great. However, I suppose viewing this clip was beneficial to me because I learned some things about the war that I did not know previously.

Anonymous said...

I definately feel that U.S soldiers were need in Iraq.I don't know much about whaat Iraq was like before the war, but from what I have heard the United States helped turn the counrty around and illiminate a threat from the current government. I believe they were successful. However It think do not think their job is complete. The soldiers have worked so hard to imporve the conditions in Iraq, and now I do believe that the United States needs to back off a little bit and see how the people their comtinue the job the Americans have started. Unfortunately, the people in Iraq have not had the opprotunity to work without the United States. I believe that a few soldiers should stay and make sure that the people know what there doing and do not go back to their old government. I do feel that the Obama is doing this to help his campaign. He promised to get soldiers out of Iraq when he ran in 2008, and since he became President he hasn't pleased many Americans. I believe he is doing this to gain support back and prove himself to them again in order to stay in the White House.

Anonymous said...

Overall, I do believe that the U.S has succeeded in their mission in Iraq. Like Biden said, the violence level is way lower than when we first started out. Despite not finding weapons of mass destruction, we’ve helped the Iraqi government rebuid itself and saved many innocent lives whether it be the Iraqi people or soldiers. As to whether it is a good idea for them to leave in 2012, I’m still iffy about the situation. For one, I definitely believe that the troops should return home because of all their hard work and the hardships they face and their families. However, I don’t think the Iraqi government is fully stable. Also, once the troops leave, I fear that things will slowly go back to the way it was. I also understand that it has been 8 years, which is obviously a very long time, so I feel that I’ll always have that fear whether it is 8 more years from now because of all the things that have happened. This is definitely a campaign strategy for the Obama Administration. However, I feel that Obama’s intentions are also good and he’s not just caring about his campaign. This is just a bonus to his campaign. Who wouldn’t want to elect a president who got all the troops out of Iraq and brought them home safely? He also promised this before his election, so this decision is very beneficial.

Anonymous said...

I think that the United States of America did somewhat succeed in their mission in Iraq because as some of my classmates have already mentioned violence in the region has been greatly reduced. I do not really have a strong opinion on the issue of the war in Iraq because I can understand where both sides are coming from with their views, but I do think that it is an important issue. I agree with people who say that American troops are in Iraq to help and that the country is not yet stable enough for us to leave, but I also agree with people who say that we should leave Iraq to save the lives of American soldiers and that war is never a good thing. I am not really sure whether American troops should leave Iraq, but I do know that they have positively impacted the government as well as civilian life in Iraq. I do not know whether our government should choose to take the stance of continuing to improve the state of Iraq or if we should accept the idea that perfect nonviolence is unachievable. The U.S. leaving Iraq is certainly a good idea for American families, but I am not sure whether it allows our country to fulfill its role in the world as a peacemaker and mediator. I do not think that leaving Iraq in 2012 is just a campaign strategy by the Obama administration because Joe Biden’s emotions about his son’s service in Iraq seemed genuine to me. I do think that the Obama administration really does believe that it is important for the U.S. to leave Iraq, but I also feel that they will use it to their advantage as a campaign strategy in 2012.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Biden that Iraq has been a success so far. The level of violence in Iraq has significantly decreased. However I do not think it is a good idea to remove our troops yet. There is still a present danger, such as the car bombing. I do think that the Obama administration is pulling out of Iraq too soon. I honestly don't think that eight years is that outrageous. I believe it is important to keep an American presence in Iraq in case danger and other issues continue to arise. We need to keep Iraq safe from other countries, such as Iran. Our presence in Iraq really has mattered. We made a huge difference in that country by sending our troops there. Supporting our troops is so important and we also need to completely support our cause. I actually really liked everything Biden said in this video.

Anonymous said...

I think that the United States has succeed in our mission of what we had originally wanted to accomplish in Iraq when we first went it, protect that American people from any harms way and to help this troubled country get back on track with a better and safety government. Now like I said I do feel that we have been successful but only to the extent in which we could have succeed in Iraq. Bush sent our troops over to investigate on weapons of mass destruction but after years of searching we have found none. I think that this leaves the American people with a little peace in mind compared to if we have not gone into the country to secure any possible threats. I think that our troops really did help the Iraq government get back on track while creating peace in the country, as shown by the low violence rates that are now lower than they were before we entered into Iraq. I think that our involvement with the creation of their government goes to show not just their countries but countries around the world how willing the United States is to helping other countries in times of need.
I could debate both ways that this is and isn't a campaign strategy for Obama. Yes one could believe that he is just doing this for his reelection campaign but we can never know because there are no facts supporting it. In the overall picture it really doesn't matter that much because we are bringing home sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, husbands, wife's, and etc. We are ending our involvement in a now stable government which we should not be present in forever. There needs to be a point in which we pull out so they can live for themselves, and what is a better time than now.

Anonymous said...

I think that the war in Iraq was poorly planned going in but the intention was good. I think that we should have had a better plan of what we were trying to accomplish going in and that we should have had a more solid reason for going in. I have a cousin who just got out of Iraq, so I know how people with family overseas feel, but I think that so far it has been worth it. However, I don' think that we should just feel like we can leave Iraq alone and let it be without supervision. Iraq was a generally stable, peaceful, and fair country before Saddam Hussein came into power and we would be foolish to think that something like that could happen again. I think that we need to have a small peace keeping force in Iraq to make sure that we are able to have troops on the ground just in case a terrorist insurrection ensues and Iraq again becomes full of chaos. I believe that even though people say that Iraq is stable now and that it is in our best interest to simple leave it alone, I think that we should put safety first and MAKE SURE that the Iraqis are able to run their country before we abandon them.

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